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VeryVer's avatar

It's not easy when you children are angry with you. I feel you are doing the right thing. However, what will you do when the shots are mandated for everyone -- including boosters? I think the booster mandate is coming up. I'm a fed worker and the form I just filled out for them regarding my vax status wants to know the brand of vax I took and the date I took it "in case the definition of fully vaccinated changes." They just built the web site from scrap over the summer. I figure they KNOW that boosters will be mandated.

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Gummi Bear's avatar

Thanks for the question

Gonna post on this because it’s a great question

We need to draw a line…and we all need to agree

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Ed's avatar

no booster for me, but i am retired so the illegal intrusion on my livelihood is not an issue.

i hope the truth prevails, it has been smoothered by the democrats/press since trump said 'go back to work' in apr 2020

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Robert Holmes's avatar

Yes. A thick red line. ENOUGH with the kids.

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VeryVer's avatar

Thanks Gummi! You're doing good things.

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Notch Johnson's avatar

I fear that the more people that give in, the easier it will be to mandate perpetual booster shots. Many have been coerced thru propaganda and mandates rather than have made an informed choice.

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Lallie Lue's avatar

I will never vaccinate my beautiful, wonderful, healthy, happy child and subject to her to side effects and illnesses that may never be reversed I had COVID and so did my mother with Pneumonia it wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be, we both recovered, and my child was around both of us and DID NOT GET IT! And has not had it to this day! There is no need to put my daughters life on the line for an illness that is not that bad! It's sickening!

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KatLee's avatar

The insanity of this is beyond comprehension.

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Fernanda G's avatar

The problem is that I don't think Pharma, doctors, CDC and FDA are following up on the adverse reaction part with attention and care. I myself had an adverse reaction, had to take Ketorolac and sent a 3 page document for J&J. 4 months later no further inquiry from them , granted it was headaches for 3 months, (mild compared to others), but I felt ignored and when I share with people about my reaction I feel that no one wants to hear. Plus the medical billls was on my end $1,000 so far.

So that tells me that they won't follow-up on the kids reaction as well, it is hard to believe when they safe "safe and effective", when you ignore the adverse reaction cases,

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PP1959's avatar

The myocarditis in young people is not ‘rare’. Rate estimates keep plummeting and it might be more common than 1:1,000. Anecdotes of classmates both getting it etc.

A compelling story is Daniel Shepard from Melbourne. Fit young adult who ended up in hospital with myo-pericarditis following first Pfizer jab and his girlfriend was also admitted with the same! He says his cardiologist told him the hospital was seeing “30 to 40 cases per day”. He asked several nurses if the cardiologist was correct and they said “yes but we’re not allowed to talk about it”. His infectious disease specialist was clueless & advocates second jab.

See his daily TikTok vlog:

https://www.tiktok.com/@danielshep60?is_copy_url=1

Also see Dr John Campbell YouTube interview with a professional cyclist with vaccine induced myocarditis who is now severely disabled:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H7inaTiDKaU

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PP1959's avatar

Also Daniel Shepard describes how after hearing how common it was he called all his friends who had been vaxxed. His cousin had been having mild chest pains & palpitations since vaccinated and sure enough after going to see doctor & investigated her was also diagnosed with myocarditis.

I should add that two of my own coworkers were diagnosed with myocarditis shortly after their vaccines.

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Susanna's avatar

1 of my co-workers developed atrial fibrillation

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cmpalmer75's avatar

Hi. I recommend a little tough love for your daughters. Make them watch videos and read stories about young people who've been harmed. They may have a new perspective.

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badamanda's avatar

If spike proteins in the vaccines are causing myocarditis, isn't it possible that an infection will cause these same symptoms in the same child? There is nothing in this vaccine that is not actually in the virus. The difference would be concentration and I don't know whether an infection would generate more or less spike particles flowing through your system.

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cmpalmer75's avatar

First, the virus enters through the respiratory system. If the immune system deals with it quickly...as it would in most healthy children...there is no risk to the heart.

Second, these jabs contain a lot of stuff that is not in the virus.

Third, these jabs target the spike protein, which the virus is already mutating around because the so-called health experts have chosen mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic.

Fourth, the mRNA jabs contains billions of copies of the instructions to make spike in an uncontrolled manner for an unknown period of time. The lipid nanoparticles do not stay local to the injection site. The vaxx spikes do not stay "stuck" the the cell membrane. Both have been detected in the blood plasma and organs. In a study released on April 30, the Salk Institute said the spike is biologically active and can damage the endothelial cells that line all blood and lymph vessels.

https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/

Fifth, whatever protection the jabs provide against infection and transmission is dropping like a rock. For the last three weeks, the UKHSA reports have shown a higher rate of infection in the fully vaxxed age 30 and older. Three weeks ago, that age crossover was 40.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports

Sixth, the efficacy against severe disease and death is also dropping.

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/uk-vaccine-hell-predictably-worsens

Seventh...and most important...pretty much any virus can cause myocarditis or pericarditis. Respiratory viruses can infect organs and joints as well. I personally know someone who lost his 12-year-old grandson because his "cold" destroyed his kidneys. My own son had a viral infection of his hip joint when he was four.

Viruses can do all sorts of nasty things...even viruses we consider benign...but only rarely do the. And we've lived with this reality since the beginning.

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Susanna's avatar

My soon to be 16 year old son is desperate to be vaccinated.

I think there is a big element of fitting in that's causing the kids to want to do this.

I truly suspect he'll do it behind my back.

Thankfully my 12 year old son still trusts his mom & dad to have the smallest amount of intelligence....... 🙄

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PP1959's avatar

Not only our minds but our own hearts as well 💔 Good on you for standing by firm. We are trying as well with our kids.

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Lother's avatar

An 18 year old girl just died here on her birthday from the jab. Went to nap, never woke up. She was obligated to get the jab due to sports competitions.

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Beetlejuice's avatar

My two young girls had covid (as did my wife and I)- we barely noticed they were sick. We also had no choice in contracting as my wife was exposed at work - so we can make a living. I cannot in good conscience get them vaccinated and worry about reproductive or ovarian issues caused by the spike protein let alone immediate adverse reactions. I'm losing sleep over thinking about it.

I can admit I'm not the smartest person, most achieved, or brightest. I have a hard time learning, but I'VE ALWAYS HAD A BULLSHIT METER (Logical bias/radar) from as young as I could remember. I've found that this internal beacon of logic has been right my entire life. I won't stop listening to it now, even with pressure. I look to people like you Gummi. Keep up the good fight Gummi.

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Lucy's avatar

"Because it’s an unnecessary risk

And I could not live with myself, knowing what I know, if my children were to incur long-lasting health problems because I chose the easy way out" - THIS 100%.

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Ed's avatar

el gato malo, did a post yesterday on 'mass formation' leading to 'mass psychosis' we suffer in the usa.

hopefully the psychosis resolves w/o mass violence from the targets of the frightened psychotics' hysteria.

Dr Risch, Yale, estimated that as many as 85% of the with covid deaths could have survived with early treatments, like hcq (chinese standard of care early on) ivermection (widely used in india), etc. one crime against humanity perpetrted by the "free world".

justin hart related that 99% of w/covid deaths had one or more co morbidity, age is a close second. death data on world o meter concerning wuhan and lombardi italy confirmed this in feb 2020.

i know a little about testing weapons, against specs and against performing in the real world. ph 3 tests fail the design of test standards and faa would be in more trouble running pfizer tests than they are over b 737 max 8 tests..... the consumer risk of the vaxxes from those tests is born out by the breakthrough infections, large number of all cause deaths since aug 2021, etc.

the best support for the statement "vaxxes are safe" is they have insufficient evidence, bc they did not look, to say the vaxx is unsafe>

the proper hypothesis is the vaxx is safe, sort of like we test reliability on a passenger jet.

i was all for vaxxes. i did the azn 1222 trial in nov/dec 2020. i got the xaxx, the in arp/may got moderna bc no card from the test. i am 70 the trial needed old folk, i am generally healthy. neither shot was a problem, the moderna was a non event in terms of reaction.

i gave blood at he red cross in may and they informed me i had antibodies....

since more data has come out i have decided i made a mistake getting the vax..... my rationale is i have not that long to live with the bad effects....

i will not boost and if the dictator says 'no boost is unvaxxed' i will be unvacced, and take my life back!

as ethical skeptic observed "we are about to begin seeing the short tail risks"

what he did not say is those tail risks may be widespread and severe health damage to vaxxed.....

position on the casualty distribution does not mean low risk, in the existing fda/pharma cabal.

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

Federico Andres Lois points out that kids are going to be infected anyway, meaning the vaccination myo risk has to be added to the infection myo risk anyway. I'll add that right now they are talking about vaccination top-ups every 6 months. Based on infection rates now, it might take 3 or more years for all kids to get infected. To keep their antibodies topped up, that would mean adding 6+ vaccination myocarditis risk events to every infection...

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PP1959's avatar

I think that’s wrong reasoning. Kids fight off SARS-COV-2 effectively in their nasopharyngeal mucosa. In nearly all paediatric cases the toxic spike proteins don’t affect the heart. These gene vaccines however make billions of spike proteins throughout body & heart is pumping them through for days or weeks in some cases.

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PP1959's avatar

Sorry I see your second point: Yes totally agree boosters simply add the risk of vaccine induced myocarditis (& neurological, autoimmune etc) injuries every time. Naturally acquired immunity now shown by over 40 strides to be much more robust & long lasting.

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

More worse: as gato and eugyppius have explained, highly vaxxed populations show population level effects including increased rates of infection, particularly, apparently, in the asymptomatic, and the high vax rate helps bad variants to gain predominance and escape the vaccines.

Worse still, new idea from eugyppius and a UK study suggests getting first infection after vaccination disrupts natural immunity, probably leading to even more dependency on repeated vaccine boosters.

https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/mass-vaccination-may-permanently

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

Forgot conclusion in first paragraph above: vaccinating kids unnecessarily drives overall pop vaccination rate even higher, potentially making these effects even worse.

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ThomasOfHookton's avatar

Worse, the risk of multiple vaccinations may not simply be additive, it might be compounding. The whole reason Moderna pivoted from prior applications of mRNA to vaccines was the repeated dosing was causing big problems, including unacceptable levels of death in healthy subjects, as I recall. They thought this risk would be minimized because the vaxxes would not need repeated dosing.

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Howard Steen's avatar

Excellent article, thank you. The only way I can protest this insanity is via my art. http://docs.shortxxvids.com/second_covid_trilogy_part3.pdf

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